Welcome And Guest Introduction

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Welcome to the Leadership Insights podcast with Co-Fanancial Group as a sponsor. I'm your host, Sharon Kelly, where we interview leaders from around the country that help us make great decisions and are willing to share their wisdom and their insights so that we can all become better. Today I'm really excited. We have a Chicago native, Chris Natsky, who's a ninth-degree black belt. Today's his first podcast where we get to announce that. He helps individuals, organizations share their limitations, unlock in their full potential, and perform at their highest level through his powerful black health leadership approach. Welcome to the show. I'm so glad that you're here today. It's really wonderful to be able to see you, and I'm looking forward to learning a lot of lessons and sharing them with our group today.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Excellent, chat. Thanks so much. Great to be here.

Growing Up In Wisconsin

SPEAKER_00 1:13

So let's go back to the fact I believe you started in Chicago and you went to New York.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

I have to correct you on that. I actually grew up in southeastern Wisconsin and then maybe down to Northwestern. But no, I grew up in uh about 30 miles west of Milwaukee.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

So at least I think by the getting in Northwestern, we could call you smart. Yeah, I hope so. I hope so. Good. So what was your focus when you were going through school? And how did you get started becoming the athlete mindset?

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Well,

Falling In Love With Taekwondo

SPEAKER_01 1:46

you know, my my martial arts training actually started when I was 10 years old. So back in the day, martial arts wasn't like it is today. There wasn't a school on every corner. But I grew up in a little town in the Midwest, as I mentioned, southeastern Wisconsin. And I got enamored with martial arts through the TV show that was on at that time called Kung Fu. So David Carradine, Qui Chin Kane, the Shaolin monk, walking across the American desert trying to avoid the authorities. And he'd go into a little town and the bad guys would try to beat him up and he'd take care of him using his kung fu. And I literally fell in love and begged my mom to let me go to my first class. And I remember, like it was yesterday, Chad, these people with these amazingly powerful movements. And I literally felt like I came home. And that was in September of 1973. So that's when I started my martial art journey.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

I find that to be incredible. I have what they call a tennis journey, and it stayed social, but it never got to the levels where you're at. So let's say you're going through this whole martial arts journey.

First Black Belt And Talent

SPEAKER_00 2:49

At what age did you get your first black belt?

SPEAKER_01 2:52

So I received my first degree black belt at age 14. So approximately four years of training and received it, and he's still my instructor to this day, Grandmaster J.K. Lee in the Milwaukee area.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

Would you say, or would he say that you're a gifted human being? Like, like I want to be a black belt, but you have to remember moves, you have to have memory, muscle memory. Like, like share with us, are you gifted or is this just something that through hard work paid off?

SPEAKER_01 3:20

I I think it's a balance of both. I think that I had a proclivity to martial arts and just in terms of physical structure of my body. I trained in the martial art of Taekwondo my whole life, which is a high kicking style, and I have natural flexibility, so that definitely helped. However, there are a lot of people that come into a martial arts school that have all the physical skills, but they never reach it to black belt and beyond. And so I'd like to think that there was something there as well. And a lot of it had to do with the tutelage that I received from Grandmaster Lee. He at a very, at a very young age with me, really encouraged me and really saw something, nothing special in me and made me feel that way, right? Made me encouraged me, supported me, et cetera. He became a second father to me.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

So I remember there was a class that you were in, because we were talking earlier, where he walked up to you and said something special that kind of, I think, shaped you from the day that he walked up to you and said, Why?

“I Will Make You A Champion”

SPEAKER_01 4:15

I'll tell you what, it's one of my favorite stories to share. And it was one of the first times I was training in his classroom. And I was seated in the corner of the room, my legs were spread wide because I was stretching out, getting for the ready for the training that morning. And he walked onto the mat and he has this amazing power and presence about him. And he was surveying all of the students. And pretty soon I realized he was looking directly at me. And before I could move a muscle, he came and he sat down in front of me and he put his right foot on the inside of one leg, his left foot on the inside of the other. He grabbed the ends of my belt and with one push-pull, split me out to 180 degrees. And as I like to joke, I learned two lessons that day. Number one is anyone can do the splits once, right? But the second thing is he looked me in the eyes and he said to me in his broken English, he said, I will make you a champion. I will make you a champion. Now, at 13 years old, you know, I'm in a very uh interesting part of my life. I grew up in a household with a father that was home, but he was alcoholic. And so I didn't have the best of male role models. And so now I had this man who I, you know, tremendously respected, and he was seen and he was believing in me. And that's what I often say is my head heard, I will make you a champion, but what my heart heard was, I believe in you. And it was a seminal moment in my life, Chad. I remember it like it was yesterday, and really, I believe, put me on a trajectory to not only succeed in martial arts, but hopefully in life as well.

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So

Cross-Training And Knowing When To Stop

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when you're in martial arts, and there's many, many, many different types of martial arts. I remember, and I don't remember when UFC started, but I remember watching it with Gracie and with the grace of Royce Gracie. Did you ever wonder what the other martial arts were like as uh competing against other MMA classes? And and did you ever think about fighting at that level? Or because you are a national champion in 1999, are you are you everything that you wanted to be?

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Yeah. Number of great questions there. Number one, when I was growing up in my high school years, you know, grade school, middle school, high school years, the martial arts of that time was very siloed. So very few martial arts would, you know, the karate guy wouldn't talk to the kung fu guy and vice, you know, vice versa. But when I went off to college, when I went to Northwest and I started working with other martial artists and basically opening up my eyes to that. Now, the UFC and the ground fighting of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu really didn't come into prominence until the early to mid-90s, right? And so since that time, I have trained in other martial arts, trained in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Korean Hopkido, in uh you know, muita kickboxing, all these martial arts. And so now the system that I teach my students combines all of those. Now, to answer your second question about wanting to compete at that level, no. After I won my national championship in 1999, I was really going toward the end of my competitive career age. And when they raised my hand, I looked up at the sky and said thank you, and I knew I was done.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

So I I love the idea that you knew when you were done and that you could start your next journey, which we're going to talk about in a couple of minutes.

Real-World Conflict And Staying Calm

SPEAKER_00 7:32

But I have to ask, did you ever get into a fight because someone wanted to fight you and they didn't realize that you were actually an act, you that you excelled in martial arts? And what was that interaction like? And how did you stay calm?

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Well, I oftentimes will tell my students that the last time I was in a fight, I was in the fifth grade. Okay. So it was when I first started my martial art training. Again, guys were, you know, they heard about me doing karate or, you know, whatever, and they they challenged, and there was one instance where I did use my skills. However, what I always tell my students is that's the last time I was in a fight, but I even I use my martial art training every day. So the perspective, the the view of life, the you know, focus, concentration, respect, the physical aspects of things, I practice that daily.

Northwestern Football And Adversity

SPEAKER_00 8:20

So now move forward. You played football in college while you were studying. What was that like? What position did you play? How hard was it as a discipline, given that you were already on a black belt and maybe a multiple black belt at that time?

SPEAKER_01 8:36

Yeah. So I I was part of, for those of you in the Chicago area that are that are listening to this, I was went to Northwestern, the first um first recruiting class of Dennis Green. So now I'm dating myself. He was coach at Northwestern from 1981 to 1986. And I had been very, very blessed to be an all-star football player in the state of Wisconsin, was captain of the of the South Shrine team, all-star team, et cetera. And I believe a lot of that had to do not only with my physical skill, but also the leadership skills that I developed through martial arts. And now going to Northwestern was different because, you know, for some of you uh older people listening to this, you remember that in the late 70s, early 80s, Northwestern was not doing too well. In fact, as a freshman, I started a game against Michigan State where we set the longest losing streak in major college football history. So we did we did not stop state at 38 consecutive losses. So that experience at Northwestern was very, very challenging at times, but it was also a real blessing because I learned how to deal with adversity. I learned the importance of you know my responsibility to the team, how to be a leader in stressful times. And, you know, it's easy to be a leader when you're winning, right? Not so easy when things are tough. And but I'm also proud to say that I was part of the team that then broke that streak and turned started to turn things around at Northwestern.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

So I believe in training the brain, mental discipline, staying focused, clarity, keeping things simple, and baby steps.

Self-Control And Small Steps

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Yes. Do you think that your mind is stronger than another human's mind based upon all the training and adversity you've done? And if so, what are maybe some of the key moments in your life that have helped you get your brain to be so so skilled at control?

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Yeah. You know, I think inherent in martial arts is the skill of self-control. Okay, so we have five tenants in taekwondo: courtesy, integrity, perseverance, self-control, and indomitable spirit. So almost every class that you're in in martial art training, you're gonna be dealing with some sort of an adversity, physical, mental, emotional, et cetera. And then when you go into competition or you're going into belt testings, et cetera, et cetera, you learn how to work under pressure. But in more importantly than that, and I'm I'm never gonna claim that I've got a better mindset than anybody else. What I think I have is I have better practices, maybe. And I've and I've learned how to lean into those things. And one of the things in martial arts is we learn that anytime you have a challenge, is you break it down into small digestible chunks, right? You know, you don't go to black belt from right, from your first class two weeks later, you break it down in belts and even increments in that. And so I'm a huge believer that small, consistent action done over time can lead to massive results.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

I love one of your quotes, and then you'll share with us maybe a little story around it. What's

Why Great Students Never Quit

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this quote? A white belt doesn't equal a black belt, white belt is showing up every day.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Well, let me let me get it a little differently. A black belt is a white belt that never quit. And uh, you know, one of things, and I and I share this in my keynote talks as well, is I've had now blessed to have over 2,000 students get their black belt with me over the last, you know, three decades when I started teaching professionally in the in here in the Denver area. And of all those students that got their black belt, I can think of only two, only two, Chad, that when I met them for the first time, they had all the skills necessary to be a black belt. Focus, concentration, flexibility, speed, strength, et cetera. Now, those two did get their black belt, in fact, advanced levels of black belt. But what about the other 1998 approximately? I want to know. Yeah, yeah. Well, here's the deal. Here's what I found is that many times some of my best black belts were the ones that had the greatest challenges during their training. They were hindered physically, maybe they didn't have the confidence level, but they just kept showing up. And pretty soon what would happen is something would click, right? It was like the tumbler shifted. And all of a sudden they they built off of that momentum of that positive experience and they went to the next level, the next level. And interestingly enough, those people that sometimes had the greatest challenge became not only my best black belts, but they also became the best instructor instructors I developed. Because I think they had a greater deal of empathy of the difficulties people can have on the martial art journey.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

So, Chris, you said that so well. I want to tell a quick story because as I sit here owning a company, raising over five million with a charity, running mastermind groups and networking groups over 300 people. I started out in special ed. And third grade, I tell the story. It was an institution with three kids, a teacher, cattle prod, padded walls, and no desks. My first learning was fourth grade. Going into fourth grade, I broke my femur in half and I was in traction for six weeks. So I overcame like pretty much everything. And I graduated the UIC business school with the baby steps that you're talking about to get there. I showed up every day. I never missed a day of school, even though I struggled in school. And then when it came to my work, I never missed a day of work. I would show up because you show up.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

I think I think life is about showing up, right? Absolutely about showing up. And in fact, you're you're speaking my language here, my friend. As you know, one of the things that I often will share is small actions, as I said, they they grow exponentially. So during one of my talks, I shared the idea of this is that imagine, if you will, that you committed yourself to choose any activity and you chose to get 1% better at that activity each and every day, and you committed to doing that for a year. Now, what would happen is at the end of the year, if you maintained that pace, you'd be 37 times better than when you started. Pretty cool, right? And then you ask yourself the question well, what if I maintain that pace for two years? And most people would say, Well, Chris, you'd be 74 times better. But actually, Chad, what happens is you'd be 1400 times better because your good habits don't add up, they compound. And if you maintain that for five years, you'd be 76 million times better, right? So it's about showing up each and every day, and whatever that is, is just being a little bit better than you were the day before.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

And so it's fun is I use the analogy now of the podcasting world, which I've really dove into because I'm just loving it. If it's for nobody else, it's for me. I've interviewed you later today is Jason Dunn. He runs ultra marathons, 100-mile marathons, gold medalists, right? Accomplished business people who always just show up and become a little bit better. And in the world we're in today, we just had trouble getting the camera to work. We didn't give up, we didn't reschedule, we modified our behavior to be able to show up. And now the next time this happens, we show up even better because adversity makes us stronger.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

100%, 100%. And I would argue this as well is that most of the times in our lives, Chad, that we're probably most proud of, that we look back nostalgically and go, wow, I really showed up were the times when we had adversity and we overcame it. You know, when things go well, oh, that was great, had a really good experience, but man, when we're up against it and we're able to transcend that, those are the ones that we are probably most proud of in our lives.

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So

The Long Road To Nine Belts

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as we get to another story, I want you to shift. So tell me the journey of your nine black belts, because I think that every two or three black belts have a different story. And and did you ever think that you could have, I mean, come on, who has nine black belts? Did you ever think that you would get to a place where you were one of a handful of people in the country?

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Yeah. You know, it's interesting. I'm going to answer that in two ways. Is there is a part of me that knew at a very young age that this is what I wanted to do professionally. In fact, right over my shoulder in my files is an autobiography that I wrote when I was 10 or 11 years old after I just started martial arts. And, you know, as a 10 and 11-year-old would do, this is what happened when I was one, this is what happened when I was two. And in it, I wrote, when I was 10, I joined, I started taekwondo. I am now a blue belt, and one day I want to make it my career. Okay. So, with that as context, I knew that's what I wanted to do. But then, of course, life happens. I got married between my junior and senior year of college. Three months into our marriage, we find out we're going to be blessed with our first son. And now all of a sudden I'm like, oh man, I got to get to work. And so it was always in the back of my mind, but I went the traditional path of moving into sales and doing with a fantastic company and did very well. But what was happening is there was still this thing in the back of my mind saying, you know, I don't want to, like they say, don't die with your music still left in you. And I knew that this is what I wanted to do. So as a result of that, you know, I had maintained my martial art training and and probably when I went to before I even opened my school, I was already a fourth degree black belt. But then as I opened my school, and now I was developing black belts myself, it was important for me to also show that I needed to be challenged and I needed to grow and I was up for the challenge. So rather than just staying stagnant, I continued on that path, not only for my own personal growth, but also to be as an example for my students.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

So what happens after like the fifth degree background black belt? Like, so as an example, you're a ninth degree black belt. What happened between the eighth and ninth and the ninth and tenth? Like, what does that journey look like? And and can anybody do it, or does it have to be a special branded person at this point?

SPEAKER_01 18:38

Well, here's how I would answer that is well, first of all, I took physical tests all the way through my seventh degree black belt. Okay, so I literally took physical tests in front of my two instructors, Grandmaster Lee, as I noted, and Bill Superfoot Wallace, who is also my instructor. And then after that, the promotions came as a result of the benefits in the in the service that I've been providing the martial art world. So not only, you know, producing 2,000 black belts myself, but in the Superfoot organization for Bill Wallace, you know, running all the black belt testings around the world. So contributing in that way. And and I'll I'll also share this with your listeners because I think it's it's worth noting. In Taekwondo, there are nine degrees of black belt. And we generally say that the first three degrees of black belt, first, second, and third degree, are the fighters and the students. Okay. Then when you move into the fourth through the sixth degree black belts, we become the teachers. And the seventh through the ninth degree black belts, we become the philosophers, right? So of course, our our physical skills begin to maybe diminish a little bit. I I sometimes I wish I was still 40, right? And you know, still was still able to move like I used to back then. But hopefully what I've been able to do is take my experience not only in martial arts, but also in personal development leadership, and now be the philosopher using martial arts as my template for doing that.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

So

Breaking Boards And Limiting Beliefs

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now as a keynote speaker, you're out there with 100, 150 people in a room. You're bringing out the wood that people get to break with their.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

We call it stories of how many people have gone through that, and then and then the story around the breakthrough. Because I I listen to that and I absolutely love it because I actually have a roadmap I use called the Abundant Life Roadmap. And in between my mastermind groups and that, it's always about removing roadblocks. Yeah. What are your limiting beliefs to help you get where you want to go? Maybe I go out and I find a video on how to break these pieces of wood for people. It sounds so empowering. Maybe you could share with us more.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Oh, I'd be happy to. Yeah. So the board breaking experience is one of the signature programs that I have the honor of sharing organizations and corporations around the country. It literally happened kind of by accident here in the Denver area. I have a very good friend of mine, a fellow coach who runs a business breakthrough boot camp, and he asked me to do it one year. And so I devised this board breaking experience because I've been doing it with martial arts students, you know, my whole life, and put in my the essence of my keynote in it. And it went very, very well. And at the end, people came up and told me how much they enjoyed it. And then I had several people, Chad, come up and go, So is this what you do? You go around the country nationally and do this board breaking experience. And I'm like, Yeah, ding, I think that's a good idea. Because I'd already been keynote speaking at that time. So, I mean, one of the things I love about the board breaking experience, and to give you just fill in a little bit about how it works, is we literally take a board that my black belts would break. And I systematically take people through a process of first identifying the limiting beliefs that they have in their lives. And they literally write it on one side of the board. And then on the other side, there's a process of giving Really clear on a breakthrough in their life, business, or relationship they want to have. And then we have them stand in front of the group. You know, we have several come up at a time, but they do what I call their proclamation. They state their name, they state their breakthrough, and they state their limiting belief. And then someone holds the board with them looking at the limiting belief. And then they break through. And I have to say, been doing it now, thousands of people have gone through this process. And I think there's only been one person who wasn't able to break one year, but the next year she came back, she was able to do it. But we've had a really high success rate. But one of my favorite stories is I had a woman who was in a course here in the Denver area, about 50, 60 people in that uh program. And now everyone has broken the board. Everyone, and except for her. And so now I go up to help her and I'm holding the wood for her, and she hits it and she bounces off. And she hits it again and she bounces off. So I slowly lean into her and I say, okay, I'm going to be here at this conference all weekend. I'm going to give you one more chance. And if you don't get it now, we'll just do it privately tomorrow. So I see her center herself. She takes in a deep breath and boom, crack, she breaks through the board. Well, Chad, the entire audience stood up and gave her standing ovation. She jumps into my arms with tears flowing down her cheeks. And I found out later on when she and I had a moment that the reason that she was not able to break the board was she had multiple sclerosis. Even though she could move her arm, she wasn't able to put her hand right in the center of the board. And I think what was so great about that moment was not only for her, but the everyone in the group grew from that experience. Yeah. Everyone was inspired by her courage, her tenacity, her perseverance. And I actually, when I do the board break, I always like at least one person had a struggle, right? For that very same reason. So it's one of the favorite things I get to do.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

I just think it's awesome. But the other thing is you ran through a list of tenacity, showing up, overcoming special needs, believing in yourself, the power of the audience, the power of prayer. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Without question. And you know, the thing of it is that I I notice, you know, I've I've done this enough now where I watch and I always see, you know, people are probably most nervous, not when they're in front of the board, they're most nervous when they're waiting to go up, right? And when I'm watching the guys, and now this is an informal study on my part. I'm watching the men and they're like, they're, I think they're nervous. Uh well, the women, first of all, are nervous because they don't know if they have the strength. This is generality. And the guys are nervous because, well, the woman just broke the board, and what if I can't, right? So all these, all this talk is going on, this monkey mind stuff is going on. And what's so interesting is that many times the way you see people approach that board break is exactly how they're approaching their life and the things that are holding them back in those areas, right? And so it just becomes this super powerful metaphor for their life and how they can move through breakthroughs in the long term.

Schools Books And Morning Mastery

SPEAKER_00 25:14

So share with us, if you will, how many schools do you have? And how many more years do you want to be, Chris? Ninth degree black belt. When do you think you're gonna get your tenth? Maybe tell us a little bit about the schools, how they find you, and then in a minute or two, we're gonna get into your books.

SPEAKER_01 25:31

Very good, very good. Well, we have through three schools here in the Denver area. We call it the Colorado Alliance of Martial Arts. And so I'm very blessed to be able to oversee all those. My black belts all run those schools because I'm focusing most of my attention on my speaking and my coaching business. And hey, I'm I'm just gonna keep going until it just doesn't work anymore. You know, I'm I feel very blessed. I'm 63 years old. I just did a thousand-kick workout yesterday, and so I'm still able to move. And it's one of the things that helps bring me back to center, right? It's you know, I've been doing it so long. I I someone asked me in a past podcast, have you ever thought about quitting? And and I uh full admission, I did back in like 1991 or 1992. I got promoted with the company I was with, moved to another area of the country. I thought, I think I'm gonna try something new. And that lasted for two weeks. So I've been kicking and punching every time, you know, every every day or a week since then. And I just find I I love the idea of being able to walk that talk as well. So if I'm gonna be in front of audiences, in front of students, being able to talk about martial arts as a vehicle for improving their lives, I want to be able to make sure that I'm speaking from not only a place of authority, but of a place of action.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

I absolutely love that. Let me share my screen. We're gonna have your books come up here, and I want you to be able to talk about your books here for a minute. So with the books that are up here, we have breakthrough, breakthrough, three winning strategies to create breakthrough results in your life, business, and relationships. This is your newest book, I believe. Yes?

SPEAKER_01 27:13

It is, it is my newest book, Breaking Through. Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

So you're looking good there. That's a hell of a hell of an alpha. What do they call that alpha?

SPEAKER_01 27:20

In uh Korean, we call it a DOBAC.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

So it's a great DOBAC. Thank you. And so maybe what are one or two things that people are going to get out of this book? And I could just say it's on Amazon, right?

SPEAKER_01 27:31

It is on Amazon. Both are on Amazon. And Breaking Through came as a result of the board breaking experience workshop. So I I shared with you before that I have a place here in Denver that brings me back every year to do it. And I would go back and I would see people that had done it the year before, and they'd come up and say how great the experience was. And half of the time when I'd say, Well, how did how was your breakthrough? How did it go? Half the time they'd say, Oh my gosh, I did it within two weeks or two months, and I'm onto this, and I've used the principles. And then the other half of the time, I had people say, Oh, yeah, I'm still working on that. And it made me think, Chad, that maybe what I needed to do was develop a template, basically a process for people to have those breakthroughs. So the breaking through book is based on something I call the three C's of creating breakthroughs in your life.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

And now we have black belt leadership.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Yes. And black belt leadership basically came about right around when I was testing for my seventh-degree black belt. And the number seven throughout the ages has very powerful significance, right? Seven chakras, seven colors in the rainbow, you know, seven sacraments. And so anyway, I what I did is I wanted to have something established for that. And so I have these seven key principles that I teach, and it's part of my main keynote, principles of success and leadership that I learned through my five decades of martial arts.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

And people could find you at the chrisnatsky.com.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

That is correct.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

And if they go there, they could get a copy of this ebook that we're showing, The Six M's of Morning Mastery.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

That is correct. Are you sure? Thank you. You did your homework, my friend. Absolutely. Yeah, I have that up there right now. Six M's of Morning Mastery. Short story when I was looking into people that I admired and and they had were experiencing success not only in their personal but professional lives. Every one of them had, every one of them had solid morning routines.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

And so can you touch on that? Because I have a solid morning routine. It's not yours. It's it's kind of like mine, but you you know, I wake up, I do my thing, I relax, I read my notes, I manifest, I want to create, I envision. I've learned about visioning. I have my 30 plus ounces of lemon water before I have coffee, right? I've learned how to stay healthy for me, and then I'm excited to go work out or go to work, right? Or do what I'm gonna do. Maybe share with us a couple of your morning masteries that works for you.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

Absolutely. And first I would say is that I've got six M's, and I would tell people out there, you don't have to do all six. At least start doing one, right? You know, don't, don't, you know, make sure that you work on your soul before before you start to scroll, right? I mean, it's so easy for us to do that. But the first one is mindfulness meditation. So I spend each day in 20 at least 20 minutes of meditation, and then I do mind treatment, which is I have positive affirmative thoughts that I'm running through my mind. Uh, I do mental imaging, which is the third, which is I'm basically imagining my day and my life that I want, just like you're saying, the visualization, this conversation already went through my mind before I'm here. Number four is movement. I make sure I move my body every morning and in some calisthenics and stretching, flexibility, motivation. I'll listen to an e-book that inspires me. And then the final one is memoirs. I'll do journaling. So those that's what I do for the first hour of each and every day. And it again, it becomes a catalyst for a powerful day. And if you think about it, powerful days, championship days, as I call them, turn into championship weeks, which turn into championship months, which turn into championship years, which hopefully then turn into championship lifetimes.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

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How To Find Chris And Closing

SPEAKER_00 31:23

plus, I love that. What's the best way for people to be able to find you, Chris?

SPEAKER_01 31:27

They can go right to my website, which is www.chrisnapsky.com. That's C-H-R-I-S, N is in Navy, A T Z is in Zebra, K-E.com, and they want to reach out and have a chat, you can reach me through that as well.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

You're so easy to communicate with. I absolutely love it. Thank you so much for being a guest here today on the Co-Financial Group Leadership Insight podcast. I'm sharing disclosure so that we can let people know that we're here and that we're represented by co-financial group and a whole bunch of words on this page that people could read. And as I stop the recording, everyone should just have a great day and thank you very much.