Welcome And Guest Snapshot

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome to Insights with Co-Financial Group. I'm your host, Chad Coe. Success and leadership isn't just about the decisions we make today. It's about the legacy we build for tomorrow. On this show, we talk to people from around the country who are open to sharing their wisdom, insights to help us all become better. Andrew Brumer, I get stuff done. He's an operator, builder, multiplier, AI architect, business polygraph, CEO, COO, and helping you understand AI, which gets all your time back to build leadership and teams. Let me read you a couple paragraphs, though, about how great this guy is. We're going to just love my story told and what it does. Andrew lives by the principle of planting seeds for trees he will never sit under, operating as a small multi-company executive and global coach following a major professional pivot in 2024. Today he's leveraging a diverse operational background, spanning four continents to serve as COO of Industry Technologies. We're going to go right into this, Andrew. Your bio and what you're doing is just incredible, but we have 30 minutes here today to be able to talk about it and hear it right from the horse's mouth. How are you?

SPEAKER_02 1:18

I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for the invite here. And if I get uh too long in the stories, throw something at me. It'll hurt, but I'll stop.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

Oh, I I don't know that you could be too long. I think everyone loves the accent and they're going to want to hear more about you and what you're doing. So let's just start right out of the

Becoming An Operator Who Delivers

SPEAKER_00 1:34

box, right? You had a pivot in 2024, but let's just say from 2010 to 2024, what kind of work were you doing, which led you to where you are today?

SPEAKER_02 1:46

I'm a doer. I get stuff done. So I've crossed the work that I was doing before I joined the executive portfolio was around business process optimization. And that means going into companies that are in varied verticals, understanding they go to market model and helping them use technology and tools to systemize things, processes, increase revenue, and affect eBITDA. So affect the bottom line. That transitioned into a company in the health and wellness space where I took over the operational function. And then my team gave me the title of chief of stuff nobody else wants to do. And then and everything just got piled on me. So anything that operational, so sales, sales operations, investors, HR, internal, external counsel, just everything. And that gave me a really, really, really good foundational base inside of the executive structure of organizations, how they operate, and how how you leverage the technology know-how people culture to try and get the best out of people.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

So when you were managing people, go back before 2020. What was it like? And how many people were you managing kind of pre-AI?

SPEAKER_02 2:57

So probably the peak of number of people that was managing inside of that health and wellness organization is probably about 30 people, somewhere around there, most of them direct reports. So very, very flat directive. That transition of AI, we did a scale down before AI affected. So the organization scaled down. So I didn't get to experience the consequence of AI on that team, but we did a scale down as a result of the dynamics around COVID and shutdowns and investor funding drying up in the 23-24 cycle.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

So part of you deciding to pivot, it sounds like is with what you were doing in the healthcare space, dried up, became a different space, harder to do, maybe even impossible. And then at 2024, things opened up and you were able to become, you know, let's just call it a business polygraph, insight human being.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

Spot on. So what transpired is investor funding dried up. The organization is still on the go today, trying to get itself moving, but it got to the point that it was clear that the financial being an operator, I would naturally be one of the people that would be moved on from the organization. So in 24, that was when I kind of had I did the hard pivot. It was a pivot because I'm a servant pleaser. I've always been a servant pleaser. And I allowed myself to get to a point that I did not look after my brand. I got comfortable, as most folk do. I got comfortable, good salary, good work, good job, good people. And I did not look after myself. So that pivot was dramatic in trying to create a new tomorrow. And how do how do I go from corporate, comfortable corporate startup America, into what do I do tomorrow?

SPEAKER_00 4:35

So now we're at what are you going to do tomorrow? But you have a family, you have a work-life balance. You said here to me earlier that you love life. Yep. So how do you love life, but yet at the same time, you're now an entrepreneur building your own empire? What is this like for you?

The 2024 Pivot And Loving Life

SPEAKER_02 4:54

Mindset. So mindset is there. I believe in a rich, healthy, integrated life. I don't believe in working your tail end off until you get 65 and then try to figure out how do you go and enjoy life. So I have, as long as I've been working, I've been working and playing hard. So I've done stunt work, I've climbed Kilimajara, I've done youth work, off-road, volunteering, rescue four-by-four-ing, hiking, I mean a lot of stuff. Learned how to breed sea life, learned how to do woodworking. I do this furniture behind me. I built this and a lot of other stuff in the house. And then I decorate the house over Christmas with 35,000 lights. And I believe it's all mindset. You gotta find things that make life worth it, that make working hard, especially when you're in the executive structure, especially if the CEO is something, or you're a founder, you gotta make life worth it. It cannot just be slug away at making this dream come true.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

I want to take a time out and take a step back to what you do to love life. So I love life. I play tennis, pickleball, I golf, I do everything traditional. And if I'm friends with you, I didn't hear one thing you do that I do. So you breed sea life, you four by four, you decorate your house with 35,000 lights. You know, if one light doesn't work, they all don't work. Like, like, like this is just mind-boggling to me. When did you decide that you wanted to become a person who does these activities?

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Were you a trial? It's always been there, yeah. I mean, so at the age of 24, I doubled for Robert Army Jr. in uh the uh in the movie uh Danger Zone in South Africa. The movie was filmed in South Africa. I doubled there, I did learn to do stunt work, and it's just been from there. I've always just I've always looked for things outside of the work life to keep things moving. And you know, for me it's just mindset. You get busy and a certain amount of time in the day, but I was not willing to sacrifice life to wait until I got to retirement to say now it's time to go have fun. So I've lived a rich, healthy, complete, love-filled life where I've affect people, people affect me, and I have fun through the whole journey.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

You said the name Robert Downey Jr. Was that name dropping? No, wow, not intentional.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

You asked me where it started, and that's where it started. I literally I did stun work. I learned to jump off of buildings and all sorts of stuff, and uh, and and that's kind of where the the bug bit, and from there has just been Kilimanjara happened, uh, hiking happened, youth work happened, just so much happened. You need one spark in life to say, huh, it's not just about that, and then go fetch it. Life is there for the taking.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

I just absolutely

Planting Seeds You Will Not See

SPEAKER_00 7:32

love this. So, Andrew, you plant seeds that will grow trees that you will never sit under. And I have to change this so that it could be done right, but we're never gonna sit under the trees that grow. Tell me about that.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

So we live in a very complex world today. Society, business, tech, it's a very complex world we live today, in today. And it's probably no more complex as society was ready for it 20 years ago. I am gifted in working with people in ways that I don't, to my detriment, don't receive revenue from. I am gifted to speak with people. I I engage with people, so rambling. I engage with people in Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Brazil, Botswana, Nigeria, Kenya, India, Australia, US, I mean, all over the place. And for me, it's about if you can affect somebody's life to the positive, do it. If you're able to help someone, do it. If you're able to help them find a brighter tomorrow, or give them a reason to have a smile on their face, do it. And do it because you're changing their life, not because you're getting something out of it. You never know the small words you use today, whether you're in a local conference inside of Atlanta and you're at a networking event, security-based, or building houses, or you just never know the small words that you use and how your inflection and representation of life can affect somebody else. And you probably will never see the consequence of that. So I live a life of making sure that anything I do or say is to the positive impact of people around me in ways I will never understand or never have the privilege of knowing.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

So, a couple of things that I want to follow up with. So, is that your superpower? Being able to help people have better lives by using simple words that can make them feel better about themselves, more confident about themselves, and maybe even transform their life, and you might not even know.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Yep, spot on. I'm fantastic at bringing out the best in people, help them find their own mustard seed. I don't invent their mustard seed. They have their own, I help them see their mustard seed, and then I help them figure out how they can best water their own mustard seed. I don't profess to watering other people's mustard seeds. I'm really good at bringing out the best in people and helping them figure out what on earth do they do with themselves tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

So, why will we never sit under the tree of the seeds we plant? Because this takes many years.

SPEAKER_02 9:54

Yeah, so the person I affect today, I will affect them for three months, six months. I'll be gifted to be part of their life through a window of time and then they will move on. And my goal in life is to affect that person so dramatically that the consequence of me affecting that person will live for years in their life. And I probably won't be around to benefit from or even observe. And it's my experience that I've the lives you affect, you just you're not around. You just you can see the effect happening, but the end outcome of what that person achieves and what they become. I, you know, I I have a breadcrumb of people's lives that I've affected, and very few of them I actually get to go back to them and see what they became. And often when you get with them, it it's fantastic. I mean, you're humbled with what they've become and what they do with their lives.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

I find that to be awesome, but you use the word detriment, and I'm gonna say that that's not a detriment, that's just who you are, and that that actually fills up your cup so that you can live this full life.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

It is, it's just it's missing when you I think the more important key in that whole topic is doing stuff for people that more than none will never ever have a way to reciprocate what you've done in their lives for them. I think that's the key. Whether you get to observe and participate in their success, or whether you affect them and you don't participate, I think though that's inconsequential. I think the key is affecting people in ways for people that can never pay you, or probably will never be able to reward you in any way for the impact you're having on them. Because if we all adopt, if we have a predominant population that adopts that mentality when you're working with people, just think of where this can go, where society can go, where people actually help one another for the sake of one another and not for the sake of what they get out of that person.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

So I'm curious, when did you make a living that allowed you to have this freedom of time and space given that you've pivoted a few times?

SPEAKER_02 12:00

Terribly bad assumption. I have not made the living that does it. I do it as a chosen way of life, which is part of life integration. It does not pay the bills and has not paid the bills to make me at a point that I can do it infinitum. I integrate it into the complexity and the difficulty of life that I face with everybody else. I've not had an IPO, I've not had an exit, I've not had a financial windfall. I believe it to be the right thing to do. And I believe it the right thing to impact those people, regardless of my state of mind or my state of life.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

So I do love that. But what I want to share with you, right, is this my superpower is helping people build confidence and having values and goals align with a plan to be able to reach retirement. So in the circle of life, right, we all have these different things that are strong. There's many people out there, and I think you're a creative at some level, where sometimes we have weaknesses that my company is able to help people overcome when their weakness is taking care of themselves financially last. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

I absolutely fill that full that mode. I mean, my life up until 24, I did a terrible, terrible, terrible job of looking after my career, my brand, myself. I looked after a lot of people. I sucked at looking after myself.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

So we're gonna we're gonna work on that in our show notes and with my conversation and friendship with with my new friend Andrew.

Writing Books And Mastering LinkedIn

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Andrew, we're gonna pivot here and we're gonna touch on your two books. So this is about titling You Decide, supercharge your networking, starting with LinkedIn and leading magnanimously, the power of heart, trust, and intent in leading teams. So let's start, if you will, with the you decide and using LinkedIn to build our network to get where we want to go. And then we could transition to the power of heart, trust, and intent in leading teams. Both of these books are on Amazon, or they can message you with an email to figure out how to download it. But will you share with me how did you decide that you wanted to be an author?

SPEAKER_02 14:10

I was joined a fractional group inside of the Atlanta ecosystem. I went to one of the meetups and it was at the pivot point of pivot in March of 24, somewhere in that time frame. And a lady by the name of Kimberly said to me, Andrew, you've got so many stories, you need to write a book. I'm like, I can't write a book. I can never write a book. Don't be stupid. I don't have the patience to write a book. That's never gonna happen. She said, Andrew, just pick a topic, just start writing, start writing LinkedIn posts, and sooner or later you're gonna end up with enough content to write a book. I'm like, I don't have the patience to write LinkedIn content. That's just never, it's not me, it's not what I do. She said, Andrew, stop being difficult. Wake up 30 minutes early every day of the week, and just for the five weekdays, just wake up 30 minutes early and start writing. Well, I did that. So mindset, small changes. Small changes can be dramatic life effects. Those LinkedIn posts end up being leading magnanimously. I eventually, very quickly, put together leading magnanimously. That book took me about six, nine months to glue that together. Once I glued that together, I got a publisher working with them to get that thing, get it published, get it out there. In that window of time of that transition, I had no brand in March of 24, is where, and this is where you decide comes in. Leading magnanimously is my love language, leading people and helping leaders create leaders who create leaders who then create leaders who lead people. So that's three generation away, three, three-generational away leadership that you create. And it's a textbook of how to do it. You decide was my journey from March until about September, October of 24, where I knew about 10 people on LinkedIn. I had 1200 connections. I had 10 people on LinkedIn who I thought could impact my life or do something for me. Out of the 10 people I contacted, six responded of them, two actually met with me and something happened. Well, what I learned to do, I had to teach myself how to fish. And what I did there is I learned LinkedIn properly. I learned to automate, I learned to connect. What I then did is to date, my LinkedIn network has grown upwards of 11,000 plus. It's an irrelevant number. Forget about it. The important thing is 700 plus of those people know me by name and know what I do. 700 people who know me who I didn't know 20 months ago, two years ago now. There's a hundred people of those 700 who have done something to change my life. Important note. I did not know a single one of them two years ago from today. More importantly, there are about 19 people out of that hundred who have done more for me in the last two years than nearly anybody in my life or my work career have done for me. Important note. Because I approached people as a human, not selling, not asking, not begging, not pleading, not trying to get people to buy, not being obtuse, not being arrogant, not no ego. I have 19 people who put their names on the line, their careers on the line, their reputation on the line for me, who have affected my life in more ways than most people have than nearly anyone in the rest of my work career I've done. That's fascinating. And what this book is, the journey through that, how to use the tools, what I learned, what resulted out of all of the introductions, there's a journey map inside of the book of what people affected me and how I got introduced into the different things and how that has helped me build a brand in Atlanta where I'm a recognized entity. I'm known for getting the job done. I am fantastic at AI, I'm fantastic at leadership, and helping people figure out how do they build their tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Wow. I'm an early adapter to LinkedIn. I have 16,000 followers. I do believe that a lot of them know me, trust me, like me. When I email or message them to make introductions for other people, I get about 60% that reply pretty quickly because we both know that there's 40 or 50% on any given day or week that are not logging into LinkedIn. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

Or people have moved on.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

For those people that do, I find LinkedIn to be one of the single greatest tools ever known to man. And I find that there's a lot of people that still don't understand the power of LinkedIn. They just use it, but they don't use it where they actually believe the ecosystem of LinkedIn and the power of it.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

Let's show up and throw up. It's because the analogy is LinkedIn is today our 24 by 7 conference. Pick anyone listening to this, pick your conference, be it housing, manufacturing, automobiles, no matter what it is, pick your conference you go to and be conservative and say in the US, there's about 100,000 people who may be interested in that four-day conference. Of that four-day conference, there's maybe 10,000 people who want to go. Maybe 2,000 people go to that conference. Out of those 2,000, if you have the the fortune of working in a booth in a four-day conference, you cannot meet more than 160 people in a four-day cycle. Out of those 160 people that you take, no more than about 16, 20 of those people will respond to you after the event. Out of the 20 that respond to you, there's no more than five people that are actual real opportunities for you to close deals. Out of the five people who respond to you, there's no more than two that are probably going to close the deal. That's the life cycle of a conference. LinkedIn is exactly that 24-7. You never walk up to somebody in the conference and say, hey, I'm a process engineer, I can help you save thousands. I'll help you train your team. Oh no, by the way, I can save you hundreds. You'd never do that. You'd show up, pay an interest, engage with people, be human, and learn the trust, earn it. So do that on LinkedIn. When you do that, you'd be fascinated with what comes out of it.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

I I I love the numbers. I love how you think, and I love how you understand the ecosystem and that you were able to write a book about it. And then you're able to write a book about three generations of leadership and how and how to lead, where it's a bigger picture than leading just to lead. Correct. But you have a you have a destination for people to go. Correct.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

Because if you it's not about how you teach how you lead people, I mean, we're all we can all be good managers. True leadership is how you teach people to lead that will teach people to lead, that will teach people that lead. Because that's generational. You're now multiplying, you're now taking your brilliance at being a leader and you're multiplying it beyond you. So you're creating creating a multiplication effect of people looking out for people who plant trees, plant seeds that will grow trees that they will never sit under.

Using AI To Preserve Life Stories

SPEAKER_00 20:40

So, so Andrew, I'm gonna I want to get to many more topics, but right now you transition to my storytold.ai. Yes. So I after we're done talking about mystory told.ai, I just want to hear more about your whole AI world and what and what you think about it. But you know, I've written four books, one on networking, confidence, a parable, and then one on your financial dream house. In order to write those books, I get content. Share with me how did you come up with this idea, who's using it, and and and and who's there to service us as we get as we as we lose confidence in in how the process is going.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

Absolutely. So the how I got this, it got to this point is I was teaching people how I was using LinkedIn in 24, at the end of 24, and I was teaching a lot of people. And I had a number of folks who say to me, you need to write a book. I'm like, I don't write another book. So I'm like, So what I did is I took all the training I was doing, leveraged AI, and eventually ended up with U Decide. Fast forward that into 6th of January this year, I met with a business coach in Atlanta and he said to me, Can you replicate that? I'm like, I think I can. He said, Right. I said, give me a couple of days. I called him up the next day and said, yes, I can replicate it. Give me three days. I'm going to write another book and I will tell you whether or not I can replicate this thing. Struce and nuts. I got it done, built the book, and got that going. Where what I'm dealing with now is I leverage AI to help, and I'll give you a couple of examples, and it's it's humbling being part of some of these journeys now. Um, 84-year-old, great grandchildren, who has journaled all of her life, who wants to take the journey of her life and how her grandkids have become her grandkids, their journey and how they've become who they are, and she wants to convert that into a book, into a memoir. And now I hit you, hit the pause button. A lot of people listening say, Well, what's the point of that? Hit the pause button, take your most loved person that has passed most recently. Who were they and what were they? And in three months' time, will you remember? Do you know why they were, who they were? And when you have got the photographs with your children and your family, and this person who is so significant to you is just a photograph, and no one remembers what that person is. Technology is at the point today. We have all lived our lives and created our content. There are some people who are not gifted to write a book, they don't have the time, the money, the wherewithal to actually sit down and therapeutically write a book. That art will always stay there. There's some people that cannot, a lot of people that cannot. And with those people who cannot, their stories die when they die. We now have the ability using the technology to help people bring their already earned right to life of what they have lived and done, be it audio, be it video, be it written, be it books, be it handwritten, whatever it is, those people have earned the right of life and they've earned the right for their story to be told. And we now have an ability to tell that story and to pass it forward. And I have multitudes of stories of people that I have the privilege to help them bring their stories, their history, their their words to life and pass it on in some foundational ways, like this lady of 84, she wants to print 50 books and delete the book. She wants to give her family the book. So that's how that's us, that's how we came to be.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

I have I have a cousin who did that and gave us the book a year ago. And he was healthy when he gave it to us, and he passed away within 12 months. And we have this book. It's actually in my bookshelf behind me. It's a nice thick book with the pictures and everything going back to his childhood. Yep. It's absolutely phenomenal. So, how does someone get engaged where they upload the memoir? And and other than you, how many people are at the company now helping people get these books done?

SPEAKER_02 24:29

Yeah, fortunately, it's uh me and uh me and a couple of people leveraging technology. I love AI. AI for me has turned me into a super multiplier. I'm able to get stuff done and build solutions that will draw people in to work on stuff that they would never have worked on before. So I I'm absolutely elated and excited for what AI does. And I hold I also do training on AI to help people think differently so that they can use AI more than just their content re-editor or their their newfangled Google search. So I help, I coach people on how do you actually how do you think differently to leverage AI? So I built a solution set and people around me that helped me get this done. The way you get in touch with me is uh you can go to my, and if that website is too complex, go to my company's website, ArtDunan, which is more complex, or just andrewbrummer.com. Andrewbrumma.com.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

I find that to be all very awesome. So now you have this ability. We could write books, put it out there. You and your team help us get it together, get it to

Favorite AI Tools And Better Thinking

SPEAKER_00 25:29

be done. Now I want to ask you with AI today, 2026, what are your favorite AI tools and why?

SPEAKER_02 25:38

A lot of them. So come in short here. So I love ChatGPT because it just has a lot of words. It talks a lot, does a lot of live research. I love Claude because it's my thought partner. I can I've trained it to think like I'm arguing with the world's best, smartest, most informed people at any point in time. I love Grok because Grok allows me to validate any of the rubbish that's been fed because Grok is built by engineers for engineers. I love Notebook LM. I love taking content and throwing it in there and listening to a podcast debate. So I may think it reads right, and then you listen to this podcast debate, and you're like, how on earth did that, how did they get there? I love gamma.app for being able to build presentations. I love lovable. Go and you want to build a website. I've built my websites, the A the MyStorytold.ai built in one day, from learning it to the app to the site being published in one day. There is tools like Opus Pro being able to take content streaming like this and create short snippets and post them up on the websites, NVIDIA, C Dance, creating your video, 1111 Labs or VoiceBox to create your own voice. I mean, the tools out there. You gotta you the the best way to leverage AI is to stop and say, I'm trying to solve this problem. What is the end outcome that I'm trying to achieve? What what what does a really great outcome look like? What does it feel like? What does it smell like? What does it what does it do? And then take that and say, This is what I'm trying to do. What is there to help me build this? And you'll be fascinated with the tools that are out there. And the beautiful part about these tools, you don't have to be a 26-year-old who knows how to code Python. You need to be a somewhere old with a dream, with an outcome, with a thing you want to build, be able to think critically, think creatively, and focus on the outcome, not the transaction of the doing. And what comes out, what you can build, what you can create, what you can it, I mean, it's just it's fascinating. The amount of people I work with to help build those kind of things and help them think like that, it's fascinating. I love, love, love what's ahead of us. It's it's inspiring.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

So I do love all that, and I've learned about agents. My new thing is I'm trying to get one agent to pay the other agents so they don't have to use my credit card to be able to be super users and AI.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

Careful what you wish for.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

Yeah, yeah. It's absolutely incredible. I just read something the other day where people went in to AI and were able to then hack other people's sites on Facebook because the AI was giving them data and they were able to log in and see it. And of course they shut that window down now, but it's just amazing the technology and what it could do. I'm also a fan of using it the right way.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

More and more of that stuff is going to come out. It's like any technology that we've got. You know, people learn how to create lock pickers. So people broke into households people learned how to I mean, it's it's the it's the evolution of society, right? It's 100% true. The the key here is understanding the tools. You can sit by is it it's like when we learn to put a lock on a door. You could sit by and say, Well, that lock is stupid. I'm you know, I have to unlock my door when I get home now, and that's just inconvenient. I mean, that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that view, but then you yourself lock yourself into a world where you are limited from the next kind of the you you limit your own growth. And AI is fantastic. You know, you can if you take on the worst thing for us, it's gonna take 10 years before it becomes the worst thing for us if it can if it does. I don't believe it's going to. But you have to say to yourself, if it's gonna take 10 years, what do I do with myself for the next 10 years? Given you want to assume the worst, what are you gonna do with yourself? Sit by and be a victim, claim to be a victim for 10 years, or are you gonna wake up tomorrow and say, All right, so that's gonna be the worst case scenario. Let me go have fun and go play with the stuff. It's fascinating when you get out of the Google-esque rewrite my email and you actually get into it. I challenge all your listeners here, go and argue with Tarzan to say to it, why is Tarzan a racist story?

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Okay. On that note, I love it. We're gonna take my story told. We're gonna write your next book, we're gonna upload all of our content, and we're gonna have a book that's written for our family or for our business. We deal with Andrew, who's a speaker, a trainer, and a lover of life. I just am fascinated by the fact that he's willing to jump off of buildings and do all the things that he's willing to do.

How To Reach Andrew And Closing

SPEAKER_00 30:06

And Andrew, what's the best way for people to reach out and find you?

SPEAKER_02 30:09

AndrewBrummer.com. It'll take you to the website and all the contact details, calendarly link, calendar, everything is there. AndrewBrummer.com.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

And over here at Cofinancial Group, we're going to interview some experts around the country who have insights and wisdom to be able to share so that we can all become better people, business people, and fathers, mothers, and partners. Everyone, peace out, have a great day. Andrew, you're inspiring. I love it. I thank you for your time today. We have a disclosure, disclaimer here. And we will catch you on the next episode of Co-Financial Groups Podcast.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

Chad Coe, Investment Executive, 4166 Techni Road, Northbrook, IL 60062. Securities are offered through Sotera Advisors LLC, a registered broker dealer and member of FinRust IPT. Advisory services are offered through Sotera Investment Advisors LLC, a registered investment advisor. Sotera is under separate ownership from any other named entity. Andrew Brummer is not affiliated with or endorsed by Cetera Advisors LLC. Any information provided by the business is in no way related to Sotera or its registered representatives.