Welcome And Why Jerry Matters

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to another version of the co-financial group Leadership Insight Podcast, where we bring people from around the country to talk about what's going on in their neck of the woods and what they're doing to be able to help leaders succeed. Today we have Jerry Brazy, who I will share with you is nothing short of a miracle. And we're going to get to hear about all the different miracles, including his health issues that he's overcome, the businesses that he's bought and sold, and what he's doing today to help inspire you to be better. Jerry, thanks for being here. Chad, I appreciate the opportunity. Thanks for having me on. So we talked a little bit before the show. If you can share with us maybe a little bit of your history as nuggets, and then we'll talk about where you're at today and how we help people.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

Sure.

Childhood Poverty Without A Victim Story

SPEAKER_00 0:50

I appreciate the opportunity. I was, I am child number seven of nine. I have six older brothers and sisters. My parents had six kids when they were 23 years old. Seven years later, I came along. They didn't want me to be an only child. So I have a little brother and a little and a little sister. Grew up in abject poverty, stole food to eat as a kid. I had a wonderful childhood, even though it was what it is, a lot of violence. I've been stabbed, I've been shot at. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

So I don't want to run past the idea that everybody needs to hear that we all have a childhood. And Jerry, you you win the prize for the childhood from hell, and you don't even see it that way. You saw it as a positive experience. And my question to you is how did you see it as a positive experience when everything around you, from the conversation we have right now, would potentially look dark?

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Yeah, I think I am. The way I answer that question is I am who I am because of where I come from and in spite of where I come from. And both things can be true at the same time. And I'm not a victim, and I've never been a victim. And that victim methodology and that it's almost an ideology when you come from poor, like I did, is that you are a victim, and victims can never achieve anything. And so I pushed back against that my entire life, and it never really resonated with me that I wasn't a victim.

Everything Is Your Fault Epiphany

SPEAKER_00 2:27

I had an epiphany when I was 14 years old. I had gotten mugged, had all my money stolen, broke my nose, broke two ribs, left me for dead. I'm crawling home one day afterwards, and out of nowhere, a voice says to me, Everything is your fault. Everything's your responsibility. I'm 14 years old. A year earlier, my sister died on her 21st birthday. Four months later, I went blind in my right eye, had a bunch of surgery, almost lost my left eye, get beaten, taking all the money I had in the bank almost to death. I'm now crawling home. You know, I don't know if it was God, Jiminy Cricket, my conscious, I can't tell you what it was, but a voice told me everything is your fault. I'd love to tell you that it was a hockey stick and I changed immediately, but that wasn't reality. But what was reality is I listened to that over the years, and it all kind of came together when I was 28 years old starting my first business, that everything is your fault. So for me, the superpower in business as an entrepreneur, I've been married almost 30 years. I got three great kids, two of them are in the military, is that everything is my fault. So no matter what you do to me, you don't have power over me. So many people give away their agency to others based on what they say about them, what they've done to them, or on based on their background. Why would anybody want to give away agency, right? I am who I am in spite of all of those things. But I worked at McDonald's when I was 16 years old. They paid me $3.10 an hour. I worked there for nine months. I used training principles that I learned at McDonald's to build my companies 15 years, 20 years later, ones I still use today. So in effect, they paid me to train. And that is the way I didn't look at the McDonald's job as a crappy job. I looked at it as a springboard to my next job and my next thing. And I forgot, I try to forget anything that I didn't like and try to remember what I did, try to take away something that was that was positive.

Shut Up And Listen To Learn

SPEAKER_01 4:19

Where did you learn this idea about shut up and listen being one of your core, core, core strategies for success?

SPEAKER_00 4:26

It's a great question. I'm 28 years old. I had been running this transportation company for a lady. I'd grown it from 1 million to 5 million. I'm sitting at a desk, and some people from the outside had sent me a pro forma. They wanted to start a company, want me to be the operations guy, run the business, and they'd be the money people in the background. So they sent me this pro forma and I opened it and I had no idea what I was looking at. Now I knew how to run operations and all of those things, but in terms of the finances and how money worked and what a PL looked like and what a balance sheet, I had no idea what I was looking at. It was the second big epiphany I had in my life, the one at 14. This is now at 28. This is kind of where everything coalesced. My son had just been born. I had that event when I was 14. 14 years later, here I am. Everything comes together. And I didn't know what I was reading. Now I was a powerful person in my head. I had done all of these things. Remember, at 17, I'm living with heroin, with hookers and heroin addicts. So I had come a long way in 10 years and I didn't know what I was looking at. It was that second epiphany. The voice in my head yelled at me, you got to shut up and listen. You're going to be doing the same thing at 50 years old as these men who are working for you at 50 years old if you don't shut up and listen. And so I got rid of all of the people that I had grown up with. And I'll tell you what I was doing. I was watching sports, playing sports, arguing about sports, eating while watching, playing and arguing about sports, right? That was my life because that's where things were comfortable. Everybody in sports has an act has an opinion. And it's hard to dissuade people off their opinions. And it makes you feel powerful, particularly when you come from where I come from. So I got rid of all of those people within two months. I believed it so strongly that within two months, I got rid of all of them. And the first guy I found who knew more than me was a basketball buddy of mine who was an architect. And I started asking him non-sports questions. And then I met attorneys and investors and accountants. And I really just started to learn all of these things that I had no idea how they worked. That was shut up and listen. So I took that to heart.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

I'm just taking a deep breath here because, you know, I know a lot of people that have the victim mentality, right? It's by by the way, it's not even the child or the person that had anything that was that bad. They blame it on the parents or the drug addict parent. My mom was an alcoholic. I was in special ed for first grade, where I learned anything was fourth grade. But I graduated the UIC business school and I talked to different people about my life. And I never think anything about my life was bad. It was just my life. And then in my 30s, I went to a Marlon McDonald House charity golf outing and I said, God, I love this, but they didn't want me to be involved. So the next year I created my own charity. 20 years later, we raised $5 million, and my charity was as big and as strong as theirs, netting a lot of money. We raised a lot of money. And like you, I learned from the remedial stuff that I did, but the way that I'm wired, I guess, is I absorbed it and then regurgitated it to be a leader and to be successful with whatever venture I would, whatever venture I would undertake.

Street Smarts Over Credentials

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Yeah, I think that that you sounds like you have the same superpowers that I do, which is that you are street smart with common sense. Now, I will take street smart and common sense. I've had 10,000 employees. I couldn't tell you what their what their grades were in school. I couldn't tell you what schools they went to for the most part. I just don't care. I want street smarts and common sense. Now, if you layer in a good education to somebody with street smarts and common sense, now you have really somebody powerful. But education by itself is not a gateway to anything. Getting down and being able to learn on the fly and be able to take instruction, intuitively have some concept of how to behave. What Street Smarts teaches you and common sense gives you is a calmness so that when you're in the middle of it, my mother told me when I was 15 years old, some of the best advice I ever got, I remember it all these years later. I was complaining and she said, you know what? You're the rock that everyone crashes against. And that stayed with me forever. And it gave me a peace and a calmness. And so on the street, if you're not thinking with your head, you're going to get in trouble. So I've said forever, there's no emotion in business. I'm not emotional at all because emotion will cost you money. You know, we live in this world where television has shows where they build motorcycles or these cooking shows with these chefs and everybody's throwing eggs at each other and you know they're screaming and yelling and tossing wrenches, and the camera follows them as they storm out and slam the door. And I'm like, who would work for these people? That's not how business works. You don't survive for five minutes in the street acting like that. You're not going to survive five minutes acting like that in a business environment. And so kind of I took my ability to survive the streets and all of those things that I that I lived through and that calmness and that figure things out on my own and bring that into the business community.

Calm Under Pressure And Risk Tolerance

SPEAKER_01 9:29

So slow down. Share with me about calmness. You have 10,000 employees, you have multiple companies, you buy and sell them, people are pulling and pushing at you all the time. You have the history that you had, you have parents that have issues, you have siblings that are constantly pulling, pushing, and telling you how to be. How did you find calmness and what does that look like in your life?

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Yeah, I just had, I don't get too high. Look, to be honest, when you grow up like I mean, I, you know, I got stabbed with a 10-inch screwdriver when I was 19 years old and a mugging that they put and stuck into my back. I got out of that. I went home and I spent the next six hours laying in a bathtub in a crappy little apartment that I had, reaching behind me and pulling that 10-inch screwdriver out of my back. I wasn't bleeding profusely, so I knew I wasn't going to die. I acted calmly. I know better than to go to the cops. I've seen murders, I've seen suicides. I got finally got it out after six hours. I wrapped myself with the only towel I had. I put a bunch of duct tape around it. That was Friday night, Saturday morning. Monday morning, I went to work because I have to eat. Because since I was 11 years old, I got my first job in a restaurant, not my parents' restaurant, none of that. A restaurant in the neighborhood. They paid me $2.35 an hour to wash dishes on Saturday afternoon. The check was $17.35 at the end of the day that I went to Safeway and cashed the check for ones. So I had a big wad that looked like I had a bunch of money. And this is most importantly, they fed me at the end of the day. I got to pick anything off of the menu. The first thing I ever ate in a restaurant was that day that I worked at that restaurant at 11 years old. I've never not had a job since, and I paid taxes every year since 1980 when I was 11. So inherent in that was a ability to maneuver and to decide and to make good decisions instead of bad decisions. Not that I haven't made bad decisions, but again, you don't start to kind of climb your way out if you're not able to control your emotions because emotions is what gets us every single time. I don't know where that calmness came from. And so it just translated as I as I started to grow and I started to figure things out. I have a tolerance for risk, I have a tolerance for challenges. I can sacrifice like nobody, nobody else. I have the ability to work like nobody else. And so I have trouble answering that question because it almost came naturally to me. But I didn't hate where I go back to the start of the conversation. I didn't hate where I came from. So I didn't hate where I was, right? And so I saw that this could take me places and I was learning at such an amazing rate, particularly at 28, 29, 30 years old. My company the first year did $4 million. I did $4, $8, $12, and $14 million a year in the first year with a $12 average ticket. So I was really good at this, but I didn't know that that was a big company. I didn't know the average company was $400,000 a year, right? I thought everybody did millions of dollars a year. So some of it I'll cling to ignorance and then just this steel will, I suppose, plays a big part in it. But never, always with a calmness, never uh overly emotional. My childhood, the downside to that, I suppose, got rid of a lot of those emotions. I've never cried as an adult, right? I don't, I'm not proud of that. You know, my mom, I've been married, like I said, coming up on 30 years. My wife's never seen me cry. It gives you some sense though, but the flip side to not crying is I don't go crazy, you know, enraged and angry. So somewhere in there is a lot of that trauma, but I brought it forth like we started talking about, and I made it into a positive rather than a negative because everyone around me made it a negative.

The Most Expensive Ego Mistake

SPEAKER_01 13:07

So let me ask you this question. I have two questions for you. One is you've made some really great decisions and had some tremendous success, but you also shared that you made some bad decisions. Do you have a bad one or two decisions that you can easily talk about?

SPEAKER_00 13:21

Oh my God, Chad. Yeah. I mean, again, I have uh I have made fortunes and I have lost fortunes more than one time in each case. And so the easiest one, I belong to a group. That's what the Kronos group is. I started my own group, but I joined a group, a peer-to-peer group for entrepreneurs. I joined one when I was 30 years old. And after seven, eight, 10 years, I'm in the group. It's really working well. All of my success came from this group. I got really lucky in the first one. I was young. Everybody else in it was, you know, in their 40s and 50s and had all of this experience. And so my company started going gangbusters. I was doing about $25 million a year in revenue across, I mean, I own gas stations, convenience stores, transportation, investment, all kinds of businesses. And I got approached to buy a company. And so it was about three and a half, four million dollars a year in revenue. They approached me and I couldn't quite understand the financials. And I took it to my group and I showed it to them, and they're like, Jerry, we still don't understand this. Okay. Go back a month later, okay, now I have all the answers. And I took it to the group again. And the group's like, nah, I don't know, man. It's tough to get your high hands around. But Chad, I'm I'm a kid from the streets, man. I'll I'll figure it out, right? I'm making, I don't know, I was making $250,000 a month in profit. So I was doing really well. And my ego told me, I'll fix it. Everything else I'm touching, I'm just making money hand over fist. I can fix this, even though the guys I count on were telling me, don't do it. Guess who was right? Cost me six million dollars over six years to get out of that deal. And auditing it afterwards, for four of the years while I was battling it, the $250 a month that I was making that I was so proud of should have been $310. So it not only did it take money I should have been making because I was looking over here at this other thing that I had created for myself, but that thing in and of itself was costing me money. NetNet, it probably cost me 10 million bucks over six or seven years. That's probably the most expensive mistake I had. Not probably. That is the most expensive mistake I had.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

And when I had a flea market in Bingo Hall, and and the day before I signed the lease, they voted no outdoor selling, and I lost 125 grand. I thought that was a big deal.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've had, you know, back to I've had uh people steal from me. I've had uh people make mistakes that cost me six figures. But in every case, I I look at it and go, what did I do that put them in a position to steal that amount of money from me? What did I do that put them in a position to make that mistake rather than react to it? I never did. I just said, that's my fault. By this time, these mistakes start happening. It was in it was ingrained in me. And I was like, that's my fault. You don't go after the person if they stole and you make sure you retrain, and maybe the person was too stupid to do the work or they just didn't know what whatever it was, right? But at the same time, I do it from the perspective that they didn't get to me. I got to me. I allowed that to happen to me. I've I've had a lot of success with that approach.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

I love the philosophy around everything is your fault, and you're building and doing your successes, are your fault, your failures are your fault. The people in your life, you want to help, you want to help them giving them a better life. You've generated over $450 million in revenue. And today, through the series of life that you have, you've created and have peer-to-peer groups. So for the audience, I've been doing this in different groups in Chicagoland, where we have entrepreneur groups, we have business groups, I have mastermind groups, and it's the power of bringing people together to be able to share like experiences in different industries to get a perspective to keep you possibly from making the kind of mistakes that Jerry made when he bought that company with a little bit of ego and realizing over time that it wasn't able to be overcome.

Building The Kronos Peer Groups

SPEAKER_01 17:15

So share with us if you will. You now have these companies. You decided now to go and create your own company with peer-to-peer groups. So share with us a little bit about that.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Yeah, so the peer-to-peer, the Kronos group is for seven-figure and up entrepreneurs. And it was so critical to my success. I didn't know what I didn't know. I was really good at sales, but I got approached to join this group. And again, in those days, they called them mastermind groups. But this is a peer-to-peer group. And the value of this group is it became such that I would set up my operating meetings to have them on Monday night, my weekly operations meetings to have them on Monday night, because my group meeting once a month was on Monday morning. And there are nuggets that I would take from that group that I would run to talk to my operations group regularly and say, we need to put this in place right now. And it might not have been anything that I anything had anything to do with, but as these groups work, if you're an entrepreneur, everybody gets a half an hour and you go around the table and they get to talk about their business or life or home or divorce or whatever it is that you want to talk about. And you have hundreds of years of experience sitting around that table. And then you have somebody that chairs the group like me, and we're there to help you. And by doing that, then you get the wisdom of the crowds. And so many times two different guys would be talking about something, and I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're telling me if I move my pen from the right side of my desk to my left side of my desk, I can make $25,000 more, or I can avoid some huge mistake. I just want to make sure I heard that right. They go, Yeah, I'm like, well, I have a pen on my desk. I'm going to move that over. I mean, it was really things I would have never had access to. I would have never heard about. It's not, you know, these groups, mastermind groups, where you have 50 or 100 or 200 people on a call and somebody's giving you the rah-rah. I never got any value from that. I got value from I have that on my desk. I have that on my shelf in my warehouse. You're telling me X. And if I do X, then I get Y, or I avoid Z. Well, sign me up for that. I mean, that's the really at its basis what it helps you do. And then as you grow or as you're losing your business, or you're banking or insurance or whatever it might be, again, you have the wisdom of a board in a world where entrepreneurs are largely lonely. Absolutely. Being an entrepreneur is a lonely endeavor. And one thing I know, having worked with hundreds of them, is every entrepreneur thinks they're the only ones that have these problems. And what I bring to them is trust me, every entrepreneur thinks the same way you do, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:54

So are you doing virtual or are you doing in person? Virtual. And how many groups are you here? Are you hosting right now?

SPEAKER_00 20:01

I just started it. I'm building literally, we just got the infrastructure put together. I just put it together over the last four or five months. And so it's it, we're I'm just launching it. So I'm building the first cohort as we speak, eight to ten people per cohort, so that you get on the ground information that can help you, you know, each each meeting that you can take back and work right away, put to work right away.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

So you have all this years of experience, you've had over 10,000 employees, you've bought and sold companies over 450 million dollars. And if anyone's listening and watching this within the country or even the world, you have the chance to be able to pick the brain of a person who is a fighter who also has the knowledge to be able to win.

SPEAKER_00 20:47

Yes, and and and I appreciate that. And to that end, the interesting thing too is throughout all of this, I've stayed humble and I have imposter syndrome, right? I I wonder Chad before I came on this podcast, why does Chad want to talk to me? And I get on the podcast and I'm just fine. But there's this piece in me that says, what do people, why do they want to hear what I have to say? And the reality is that I'm going to give you, as you can tell from this interview, I'm gonna give you all the ugly, I'll give you as much ugly as you want, and I'll give as much good as you want. And there's a lot of value in these mistakes that I have made to other people, and there's a lot of value in the things that I have done right for other people. But again, to your point, inheriting that is a lot of experience.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

I find that to be really tremendous.

Parenting With Quality Over Quantity

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Now, while we're doing this, you've raised three kids, right?

SPEAKER_00 21:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

And two are in the military. So share with me, if you will, what is it like for your kids to grow up? I I believe I would consider you a serial entrepreneur and businessman. Yeah. And that you gotta be working twelve to fourteen uh fifteen hours a day.

unknown 21:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

So what is that like growing up and then having your kids kind of be for real overachievers? And and and being where they are today.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

I'll tell you what, my kids, I talk to my sons all of the time. When I moved to Tennessee from Oregon, where I was born and raised six years ago, everyone moved with me. My my family is very tight. And again, married for 30 years. But the reality is, to the 14-hour a day thing, absolutely that's what it takes. But my children, if you ask them right now, I interviewed my daughter a couple of months ago, and she's like, I don't remember you really ever being gone that much because you were always there because Chad, it's about quality, not quantity. And so many people think, well, I got to be home by eight and spend time with my kids, and then they end up on a watching a football game, right, until 11 o'clock at night. I just never did that. I came home, I played with my kids, I had dinner with my kids, and then I'd turn around and go right back to work. If I couldn't get away from work, my wife would bring the kids to me. They'd ride their bikes in the parking lot, would sit and have a little picnic lunch and make a big deal out of it. They remember all of those things. And so this idea that you have to be there all of the time, right? And giving your kids all of this quantity of time just was not true for me. My kids went to Chinese immersion school from third year from three years old until fifth grade. They rewrite and speak Chinese fluently. Then I sent them to a Catholic school and then I sent them to a Christian high school. So they had a really well-rounded education and it served them very well. So I'm a big proponent of children, number one. Children was I had my son at 28 years old, it changed my life. I had to go out and I had to murder the countryside, man, because I had to, those children were going to have a better life than I did. So the second my son was born, it lit a fire in me that I didn't understand and that I had to get under control. And then off I went doing all of these entrepreneurial things, shutting up and listening, getting out of my own way because my son was born. Then my daughter came, and then my next son, and the rest is history. And everything I've done, not one dollar, I want everybody to hear this, not one dollar, I've done $450 million, almost half a billion dollars in revenue across a dozen businesses. Not a single dollar have I earned that I love doing, that I was passionate about. Not a single one. I picked things, hopefully, that I was good at that I could sell at a profit, and then I took those profits and I worked passionately for those profits so that my children and my wife and my family had a better life than I did. So this idea that you have to be in love with this thing that you do, that's madness. Find things that you're good at that you can sell at a profit, passionately attack them, and then go take that money that you make from that and go follow your passions.

Books Perspective And Escaping Poverty

SPEAKER_01 24:32

So let me ask you this Do you have what was more influential for you? Was it a person or a few people, or was it some books that you read that that helped impact and shape your future? So before the age of 20, you might not even read a book, but what how do you think about this for people that are watching in the way of how could they become more like you?

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Yeah, perspective. Perspective is absolutely critical. So I'm gonna give you two business books. These are the references that I give, it's a great question because they're not business books, but they are to me. The first one is Washington a Life. It's the story of George Washington. It's 900 pages. It's one, I've read it twice. It's well worth the read. Because if you read Washington's life and then you look at it in the context of what we do every day, you go, there's no way you can't just be humbled and go, oh my God, I have to go do all of these things because of what this person did in the time in which he lived. The other one is a book called The Great Bridge in Building the Brooklyn Bridge, right? The tech didn't exist. People were dying, going down in those caissons. They didn't understand what the bands were and all of these things that they went through and all of the technology that had to be created that they built in the 1800s for a bridge that still stands today. And if as an entrepreneur, you read that book and you'll come away with a great guide for how to put a business together, for how to succeed, how to put up with stress, how to put up with sacrifice, with all of the things, put up with financing, all of the things that go into a business can be found in these practical applications at level 10, right? And when you look at it, you'll think you're at level 10 until you read these books, and all of a sudden you're going, Well, hell, I'm at level three. Right.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

Well, you know, when I was growing up, one of my greatest assets for me was my dad encouraged me to play tennis. And then I would go to tennis camp. And from the baseline or by the fence, they would do a little dink drop shot up by the net. And what I realized is you could get the ball. And it used to just be amazing to me that they would test how much you could run, they tested your endurance, they tested your way of being, they tested how many sit-ups you could do, how many crunches, how many planks, how long you could hold it. And what we realized is that we could hold it and we could do everything more than we thought. And I find a lot of people are knowingly weak in their mind. And one of my one of my friends who passed away recently, Bob Kaufman, he would talk about training the brain, and he would talk about what's between your ears, that you focus on it, you develop it, and then you could achieve anything that you want.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

Yes, that's and and and again, I will just add my input to that, my lived experience, which is when you're poor, it's an identity. Escaping from being poor is very difficult because no one around you, when you live in that environment, wants you out. Your teachers don't want to see you get out, your counselors don't want to see you get out, your family, your friends, your community. Now, they may not be outwardly that way, they may not realize it could be subconscious because institutional generational poverty is something that is ingrained in the psyche. And so if you get out, Chad, and you're poor, and all of a sudden everybody looks and goes, Look at Jerry, look at him go. Maybe that means all of my excuses on which I have based my life are meaningless because he had the same problem that I did. He lived in the same spot that I did, and yet he's doing well. So either you go, there's something special about him, or you turn that inward and you go, Maybe I'm the problem, maybe I'm my own problem, right? Because it's always somebody else's fault. There's always somebody to point to, you're the victim. And if you're the victim, then you know you, you, to your point, you're never going to achieve any, it makes it very, very difficult. So I experience that trying to climb out of poverty, how people want to pull you back to their level.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

And not only that, the levels of jealousy that people have, which is an emotion that I really struggle with because we wake up so hard, they don't see how hard we worked to make it look easy today. And why it looks easy today is because of all the relationships and all the things that we've done over the last 30 or 40 years.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

Yes, that's I get asked, I have a car collection. And over my life I've had these huge car collections and motorcycle collections. And so I'll be driving a car, and inevitably the young men will ask me, you know, in a parking lot, what do you do for a living? I said, I worked at McDonald's when I was 16 years old. I don't tell them what I do now. I say I'm a 15-year-old high school dropout that worked at McDonald's when I was 16 years old and I learned a bunch of good lessons, and I worked at Safeway and I downed logs and I did all of these crazy jobs. I put flotation under houseboats, I mean, all of the whatever would pay me. And I took all of that information, I filled that hard drive up to then take advantage of it at 28 years old, and then the roller coaster started. And so rather than tell them what I do now, I told them what I've done to get there.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

I'm actually thrilled that you were able to join me today. I'm impressed with your perseverance and your way of being. And I really bring value to the show today, and I want to thank you for that.

Where To Find Jerry And Closing

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Jerry, what's the best way for people to find you? I have your email up and I have your website. Are you on LinkedIn? Is there other things you inspire people with?

SPEAKER_00 29:53

Yeah, they can go just Jerry Brazy, they can look me up and they'll find me wherever I am on social media. I'm pretty much on all of the socials, but really the chronosgroup.org. And if you're not a seven-figure entrepreneur, but you like what you're hearing and you like the way I'm in. I'm this way about my health. I'm in the best shape of my life at 57 years old. I have a school community, S-K-O-O-L also, school.com. Go there, go to the Kronos Group. You'll see that community. It's for people who just maybe you're not an entrepreneur, maybe you're less than seven figures, but you like the idea of the way that I talk and my approach to life, you can get more of this there.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

I do love that. And for those of you watching, connect to Chadco anywhere, whether it's LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook. I also have the Abundant Life Roadmap. So if you think about what Jerry does, it's all about having a plan. So in my world, I make sure your values and your goals are aligned so that you could have retirement and financial freedom because we do it on purpose and we stay on purpose. Thank you so much for being here and with us today. And we look forward to seeing you at the next podcast. Please like and subscribe and share if you like what you heard today. Thank you very much.