Welcome And A Champion’s Legacy

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Welcome to the Leadership Insight podcast with Co-Fanancial Group as your sponsor. I'm your host, Chad Co. Success in leadership isn't just about the decision today, it's about the legacy we've built for tomorrow. We have guests from around the country that are sharing their wisdom, their insights, and their purpose for the betterment of our listeners. Today I'm super pumped to have Justin Gatlin, a gold medalist, but here we go. Ready for this? He's the definition of pure speed, a five-time Olympic medalist, a 12-time world champion medalist, and the man who took home the ultimate prize of the 100-meter Olympic gold medal at the 2004 Athens Games. Known across the globe as one of the most decorated, fierce, and resilient sprinters to ever step foot on the track. He's a man who has looked down the world's fastest lanes and conquered them all. Ladies and gentlemen, lace it up and get ready for an incredible interview we're going to have right now with my friend Justin Gatlin. Welcome to the show.

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I appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me.

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So it's huge smiles. You know, you're at the point now where you're helping everybody else. I think you have a servant's heart.

Hunger And Learning As A Teen

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You want to be able to help other people succeed and grow and do. But before we get to what you're doing for people today, can you go back to your teens when you're running and you're winning? And what is that like? What is that like for people that want to be like Justin? At a young age? At a young age.

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For for me, it was just having hunger, but also having the understanding to have the mind to soak up the knowledge that's given to you. You know, as a as a young athlete, you just want to get out there, you want to compete, you want to be on a great level, you want to race against everybody, but you have to learn strategy, you have to learn how to take care of your body, especially in this day and age with these young athletes who are very much emulating professional athletes more than we were when I was in my when I was growing up. So as a young athlete, you have to not only look at the finished product of what being an elite athlete is like, but everything in between, from where you start to growing to that athlete is the most essential part because it's going to give you the knowledge and understanding and appreciation once you do reach that goal of yours.

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So you said that you love to compete. Was that something you love to do? Even like at what age did you start to love to compete? Because like I love to compete, but I was always afraid of losing. And then I would have not just temper tantrums, but you get upset. Like, how did you overcome thinking that second place was okay?

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I I think I naturally looked at the fact of if I lost, it was a way for me to learn how to win.

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Okay.

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You know, you you you learn more from losses than you do from winning. Winning just tells you that you're on the right track. Losses tell you, okay, what do I need to fix? What's my weakness? What's my opponent's strengths? What's their weakness? How can I create a strategy to be better? And also kind of prime your determination to come back, be stronger. Because we all go through that, which you were talking about, Chad, about like losing, have a tear to tantrum, or being moping, woe was me, why'd I lose? But what are you going to do after that fact? After you have mourned your loss, what do you do after that? You kind of double down, you look at the situation, you kind of reverse engineer everything that happened, and you figure out what is the answer you're looking for, and then you apply that answer

Turning Losses Into A Winning Plan

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into your next effort so you can go out there and win.

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So, so let's say you're in your teens and now you're in your 20s, and I know you like, what does your day look like, right? Are you waking up at four in the morning like Rocky and drinking the eggs and doing weightlifting? Like, what does a day look like for an elite athlete when you're in your prime?

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Well, in your prime, I mean, we're not waking up at 4 a.m. drinking eggs. I'm definitely trying to dodge salmonella, but I think it's more or less like we understand how to build consistency and how to apply consistency into our craft. So our consistency would be I would be at practice at nine, and it's like a regular nine to five. Be at practice at nine, you'll you'll go there and you'll practice for about maybe an hour and a half to two hours on the track. Then you would commute to the first gym, you'd be there for like another hour, hour and a half, then you go to the next gym for another hour. And then after that, anything that has to do with recovery, ice bath, massage, dry needling, acupuncture, all these other things to help your body kind of restore itself so you can redo this whole process again the next day and the next day and the next day after that. So that's the consistency that you're looking for. A lot of athletes will go into this system or cycle and they'll get to a point where they'll be like, oh, you know, I'm so tired today. I really don't want to go to the gym, I'll skip this gym

The Real Daily Grind Of Speed

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today, or I really don't want to lay down and get a massage. I kind of just want to go home and go to sleep. So those things creep up on you when you have in an efficient consistency. You have to have a consistency that's going to make sure that you're at the best of your abilities.

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So, so when you go from the first gym to the second gym, what are you doing at one gym that like why do you have to go to a different gym when you go to the gym? Like, do they have different equipment? Is it a different coach? Is it different energy? Different equipment.

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So, first gym we start off with is more free weights. So it's traditional stuff like uh platforms for squatting, benches for going out there and doing upper body lifts, incline, chest press, those kind of things like that. Real traditional. And then we'll go to another gym that would be more specific to certain smaller muscles that would be like hip flexors or hamstrings or quads and caps. So that's why we would do it that way.

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I I find that to be amazing. So now you're out there and you're not only training, but now you're winning. So my question to you is like me, if I'm gonna win and I'm gonna win by two, three, four, five seconds, I might take it easy the next day because I feel like I got swagger, you know, that I have that I have it. In your case, you're not allowed to have that, you're not allowed to ever go slower. You have to actually go faster because people are catching up to you.

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So, yeah, I'll put it in perspective for you. You're never going to beat somebody at the elite level by four, five, six, seven seconds. What happens is you're beating, you're measuring more by meters and distance of how much you beat them. But when you kind of shrink it into time, you may beating somebody by a whole second is amazing. You're you are basically on another level, just by a whole second. Me winning my first Olympic gold, I won that Olympic gold by one one hundredth of a second. You know what I mean? So those are things that you have to take consideration, like the fine, minute like process that's gonna go into you winning and when you losing, those are the results that I have to quicker than that, quicker than a snap of a finger. So we're always running fast, yes. But as you start to understand your body, your race strategy, how your technique is, you'll know exactly when you could put your all into it and when you don't have to. Usually, when we're jockeying for a position to win a gold medal at a world championships or the Olympics, we have prelims, we have semis, and we have finals. And usually in your prelims, you kind of can go out there and run about maybe 50% because you kind of run into that 50-meter line, racing to that 50-meter line, then you're kind of slowing down, checking left to right, kind of conserving energy, and then you'll go into the semis, you'll give about 75%, you run to about the 70-meter line racing wise,

Winning By A Hundredth Of A Second

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and then you kind of slow down, look around, and cross the finish line of 100 meters, and then the finals, you already know what time it is. You are going out 100%, you're giving everything you got, and you're gonna go out there and try to win this gold.

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What's the number that's in your head? What seconds from the 100 meters is is the number that you love and you think about all the time? Is it the world record number?

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You know, there's levels to it, right? If I'm gonna get into running or sprinting, should I say, the first thought doesn't always come like I'm gonna break the world record, you know, because that's way on a different level. So for me, it's about making sure that my goals are realistic and if it's aligned to where my trajectory is at is for my preparation for in-season competition. So if my coach is looking at stopwatch and he's watching me come across the finish line, he says, All right, you're about 9-8 pace. So 980 is a good start to a season. I know I can start to wheel myself to run 979, 978 as I go into competition. So then I'll set the bar to say, instead of being a 980 pace, I want to target 975. That's your realistic goal. And then you can build off of that into your next time, into your next time from there.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

So you just said realistic goal. You know, to be a world champion is realistic goals the right goals, or do you try to set audacious goals and try to beat them? What's your philosophy and your mindset around goal setting and executing on those goals?

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So for me, I always envision building a wall of success. And so build a wall, we know it takes a lot of back breaking time, lifting up those stones, putting down the mortar, building brick by brick and fortifying that wall so it's strong. So when you get to that top and you reach what your goal is, that wall's not going to fall out from under you. So I like to I like to set realistic goals that's going to help me understand where I'm at and how I can get faster or how I can make sure that I conserve my energy because I may have a long season. If I go out and try to set a goal that is to kick the door down and bring humanity as a whole to another level of sprinting and speed, you know, that's something where you sit down with your coach early in the season and say, hey, this year we want to attack going after the world record. Okay, well, that's that's something that no one's ever done in in the in human history. So how are we going to get that? Then you start to set radical goals and you start to believe it because you have the confidence, because you you kind of you competed in the realistic realm already. So you know what you can do to set those radical goals to get those times.

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And and are you a visualizer where you could see the race and you could see the finish line and you could see yourself winning it? I hear a lot of times from elite athletes that it's

Building Goals Like A Wall

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about visualizing their sport.

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Oh, 100%. I and I naturally do it. No one's ever taught me that. Okay, I just know that I have a lot going on in my brain, right? And I and if I'm running and my sport is only lasting me nine seconds, not two halves, not four quarters, nine seconds to show the world who I am, and I'll go out there and beat my competition. So if everything's going on in my head in that way, I'm thinking, okay, if I visualize my race, how it's going to unfold, and I can get at that starting line and I can walk my race off down that path, my lane, and say, okay, this is where I'm going to move out the blocks. This is where I'm going to have my drive face. This is where I'm going to transition into my top end speed. This is where I'm going to hold off my opponents and I'm going to lean for the line and have a victory. Before every championship, I walk my lane and I envision how that race is going to unfold. And I'll go even deeper and I would think, okay, I know my opponent's habits. So I can walk down their lane and say, these are my cues for me. And I also will realize that this guy over here to my right, he's a great starter. So he might get out on me. So I got to make sure that my lane, my angles are on point. This guy over here to my left is a great finisher. I won't see him in the first half of the race, but he's definitely going to come on strong at the second half of the race. So I got to be diligent with my technique, integrity, and my speed and get across that line. So you got to kind of map out everything and give yourself variables so you know how you work, so you'll never get lost in those nine seconds.

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I just absolutely love what you're talking about. So I put here on the screen Justin Gatlin versus Usain Bolt. So we're going to get there in one second. But before we do, are there in the days that you were running and you were winning, was there other people that were as fast as you and Usain, but don't have the credit or the acknowledgement of their competitive nature?

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Yes. Throughout my career, I've

Visualizing Races And Reading Rivals

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encountered people who had immense talent, talent that could rival me, and talent that probably would be better than me. But sports isn't always a physical thing, it's a mental thing, it's an emotional thing. And if you're not tapped in and practicing the mental aspect of sports, which also is mental warfare, then you're going to get lost out there. And I've had teammates in the past where they would be amazing at practice. It'd actually have me shaking in my boots. I'd be like, Coach, this looks like this is going to be my competition this year, you know? And then they would get on the track during competition and they would just do the opposite of what they did at practice. Because you have to realize for success in any venue that you're in, sports, life, you have to face all those adversities head on. You can't dodge them, you can't go around them, you can't go under them. You have to face them head on because through that, and on the other side is the growth that's going to give you. He didn't understand that. My teammate did not understand that. He thought that because at practice, you get a controlled environment,

The 2017 Bolt Race And Reinvention

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Chad, where I get four or five attempts of doing certain reps, I can get it right. So I don't have to worry about doing it at one time. But when you get to a track and field race or even other sports competitions, sometimes you only get one shot. So when that gun goes off, you got to go out there and give it your all. And that's where a lot of athletes have that performance anxiety. They're comfortable with the comfortable environment of practice and they're uncomfortable with the control chaos of competition.

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Yeah, and I would I would say I'm really great at practice and I and I do okay and I win in tennis. That's my sport. But but it's you know, you there I don't I wouldn't even call it choking. I just think that in the when you're in the performance and you're there and you want to win, your mind does start to shift in how and how you think. So share with us, if you will, a story about you and Hussein going at it head to head and and what that's like being being against someone like that.

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So great point that you just made about tennis. Uh, you probably have a great backhand or a great serve, too, right? So you probably need to take up pickleball. We need to do pickleball together sometime, man. Love it.

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But do pickleball with you.

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So even like I'll give you a perfect example of how strong mental warfare is. If you watch someone like this match that just happened yesterday with Sabalanka and Naomi, we know that Naomi has a championship in her, she's a champion. We know that Sabalanka is the same thing, she's a champion. Sabalanka is a beast physically on there, and she knows that she if she applies and stays within her gameplay, she can rattle people like Naomi who may not be as mentally tough in those high pressure situations. So sometimes it's about uh finding the weakness of your opponents in their mental compared to where they're at physically where they could beat you. Okay. So one of the stories I think I think you're asking about Usain, I I'll tell you about 2017 when I won the world championships against Usain. It was actually the mental aspect of it that helped me through that competition because year in, year out I'm racing him at different championships, and he would beat me always at the same place of that race, Chad. If he beat me, he always beat me 20 meters to go to the finish line. He always would run me down. I realized he was watching and understanding my habits as a runner. He saw my strength was my start. He did not let it let it rattle him, but he also knew that he had top-end speed that he can be able to pull me back in with 20 meters to go. So then when I realized that, after I stopped beating my head against the wall and looking like I was insane for doing the same thing over and over, I said, let's change it up. I didn't fear change, even though I had a lot of success with my last race strategy, but it wasn't making me number one in the world. What made me number one in the world, beating Usain at his last hundred-meter race, was the fact of I dared myself to go out and be a better or different athlete. Where I once was known as one of the world's fastest starters, I flipped it around and became one of the best top-end runners. So as the gun went off, I ran my race. He ran his race, and by the time we got to the 50-meter mark, I was in fifth place because I wasn't worried about my start. I used my energy towards the end of the race and I started picking people off with 50 meters to go. I went from fifth, fourth, third, second, first, and then I dive across the line, and it was only me and that finish line, and that's where my success came.

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So let's transition now because you just shared with us the stories

Longevity Through Lifestyle And Recovery

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about milliseconds and speed and perseverance. And now, you know, I'm gonna get to a point here where we have longevity in the in the sport. So this is a sport like anything, whether it's football, basketball, hockey, you know, we we get older, right? And so, and then there's other people coming up that are now 18, 19, 20 that are competing against us in our 20s. You've actually been in the sport for quite a while. What did you do to be able to not only be in the sport for a long period of time, but to have the resilience to keep bouncing back, even with injuries and other things that might come up in this in sports?

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Well, I think for me, as time went on, I realized that what was a big issue for other elite athletes that I saw is that they stuck to who they were as an athlete, good, bad, or indifferent. If they had good habits, that's what made them a great athlete. If they had bad habits, that's what ended their career. Because usually what happens is if you're at the top, everyone's watching you and they're emulating you and trying to get to that same position that you're at. So they see what your habit is and they can overcome that and they can be able to counter you in competition. Now you become obsolete because you stuck to your same habits and same cycle. You never evolved. So as a young athlete, I looked at track and field as a job like anybody else would. You know, I was getting paid to do it, I was going to practice, I was doing everything. And sometimes outside of practice, I would do things that were counterproductive. Maybe I'll go out and have a great, a great practice. Got the burn in, got my runs in, and then what would happen next is I would go and do self-sabotage from nutrition. I'll go out and eat a big juicy hamburger or pizza or something along those lines that would be counterproductive to my progression, right? But then I learned as I became an older athlete or more seasoned athlete, is instead of looking at this as a job that I clock in and clock out, and then I'm also a different person after after I clock out, I just made it a lifestyle, Chad. A lifestyle. I wake up, I stretch in the morning, I would make sure that I would be up early enough to be able to take all my nutrition in, kind of clear my mind. Then I would go to practice. I will have the best practices consistently over and over again as an older athlete than I did as a younger athlete. And then when I'm done with practice, I made sure I took all my vitamins and supplements that would help me bounce back. I'll make sure I stayed on top of my stretching and recovery. And before I go to bed, I would stretch again. Because sleeping, we all do, for six to eight hours in one position or two positions, you're gonna wake up stiff and sore, especially if you're old, you know. Like we you got to make sure you're stretched. Stretching has to be your best friend as you become an older, seasoned individual.

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I love that. So before I get into the next topic that I want to talk about, share with us what's on the bookshelf behind you. Is that trophies? Is that a Wheaties box? What's behind you?

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Yeah, man. This is yeah, right there in the middle of the top is my Espie award that I won. So I'm I'm really honored by that. Be able to be rub shoulders with people like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, LeBron James, Michael Jordan's, all the greats have an Espy. So that means I'm one of the greats. That's why I feel that for you. Next to it on the left and the right is my Diamond League trokeys. I won three Diamond Leagues in a row, which has never been done in our sport. Even Usain hasn't done that. And it was me planning, strategizing, and being consistent. I I found a loophole within their system, and then I was winning year in, year out, and then they had to change the whole dynamic of the diamond league. Like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You can't do this. I love a good loophole. Exactly. I had to break the system, you know. I'm on the Wheaties box. That's me right there. That's that's my yeah, that's one of my track spikes that Nike gave me after I retired. It was an honor, it has all my accolades written on the outside of it. And right here next to Wheaties box is actually a piece of track and field rubber turf that that's a that's basically can you see me? I'm sorry, we're losing power. We can see but you can still see me, right? All right, great.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So we'll we're gonna keep on going. So right there is a piece of track that in from my lane when I won my Olympic gold in 2004 in Athens, Greece.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

So absolutely fantastic. So now the reason we keep going is because we know. That champions don't stop. This is true. It's true. And you can't stop. And so you have now, now that you're done running,

Mindset Coaching And Reverse Engineering

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right, competitively, you're teaching, you're training, and you're helping the young people, you're helping elite athletes, professional athletes, executives, professionals to become better at whatever they choose to do. You're like a mindset coach, a certified mental performance coach.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Yes, that's exactly what I am. Mindset, mental performance. Because you know, sometimes as a professional athlete or an entrepreneur or CEO, you're so linear thinking. You're thinking about trying to get to your goal. So you're not really worried about the things on the side of the road that you're zooming past that can be very helpful for you, or it can be something that can be also a deterrent. So someone like myself comes in and we kind of give you an understanding of the big picture of what you're involved in, and actually some parts of your outside world that can be also affecting how you are progressing or digressing in your professional realm as well. So I make sure that I try to cover the gambit for young competitors of all ages and entrepreneurs of all ages so they understand who they are and what they're trying to achieve.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

So if I'm if I'm an entrepreneur and I want to grow and I also have this sense of wanting to be an athlete, what are some lessons that you share with people that are kind of like one or two of your nuggets that that people you know can have a baseline to learn from?

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I would say know what your goal is and then learn to reverse engineer it. Okay. Come back and say, okay, I'm Olympic champion. How do I become Olympic champion? Okay, well, first I have to qualify through Olympic trials. Okay, if I qualify through Olympic trials, how long will it take me to get in shape? And usually what's the ratio or the time that qualifies for me to be on top of that podium? It could be what we talked about earlier, it could be 9.8, right? 980 something. So now I got to get myself into shape in 980 shape. How do I do that? So then you'll go down that path of figuring out what your regimen will be by reverse engineering from your success that you desire.

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So John Coyle had also used the reverse engineer to win. He's an Olympic silver medalist in the speed skating. And he had also talked about reverse engineering. So another thing that I've learned is because it's between our ears, that how do we visualize and see yourself being a winner, being if you want to weigh like 20 pounds less, you have to what does a person do to be 120 pounds less? What does an elite athlete do? What does an elite businessman do to be able to succeed? So the example would be to learn how to communicate, to learn how to negotiate, to learn how to say no, right? And you're someone that they could hire to actually help them learn the tools to become elite, whatever they choose to be elite at.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

Absolutely. And these are these are just pages that I've taken out of the book of my coaches that have helped me excel in life. And I just kind of pick and choose little pieces from each of those coaches that made me successful. My high school coach would look at me and come over to me right before my competition in high school and say, You're gonna PR today, you're gonna run one of the fastest times you ever ran before. You know why? Because I know that you're ready. And I'm like, What? So then now I've committed to the fact that this coach has been committed to me this whole process, and he believes I can do this. So I'm gonna go out there and do it for him. So sometimes it's good doing it for others because you know, we settle for ourselves. My college coach was a man who would come over to me and say, You're great. You're my you're like Muhammad Ali, you're like Michael Jordan, you're like Wayne Gretzky, you're one of the greats. It's in you, you gotta let it out on this track,

Ready Set Go And Making Track Human

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and I would do it. You know, that positive reinforcement helps people through times of confusion before it gets to be bad, you know, and that's what we're also trying to do.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

So before I show a picture and a slide of you being incredible and great and winning, how do we find your podcast? You're getting millions of views, 100,000 subscribers. It's a little bit niche. So the fact that you have all these views is ridiculously cool. Share with us, if you will, a little bit about this podcast that you do.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

So, you know, track and field is a very worldwide sport, so that I'm grateful for that. You know, it's not just like me playing for the Baltimore Ravens, and I only have people who are Baltimore Ravens fans cheering me on or watching the podcast. So I get the honor to be able to talk to and speak about track and field around the world every Sunday. And you can catch it on YouTube at Ready Set Go. Track and Field, it's based. You'll see my picture up there, you'll see my co-host. And we not only talk to track and field fans and audience, but we talk to people who are interested and curious about understanding track and field. One thing I learned is you don't have to understand the nuances of racing and competition, but listen to the personas, listen to the kind of like the storylines that lay out. They it takes you on a journey to really cheer and root for these athletes who have come from almost nothing and trying to achieve something. And that's what we do on our podcast. We do interviews, we do break downs, analysis, but we also talk about predictions of races to come, and we allow our audience to like understand, you know, the world attract and field so people who are looking for the first time can start understanding and be a part of the community as well.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

You make it so nice and you make it so easy. And you know, there's very few people that actually succeed at podcasting and putting out messaging, but I believe that as we do it more, we train the brain so we could get better at asking questions, getting better at listening, and being able to drive conversations to where the audience wants to hear it.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

Absolutely. And it just takes repetition, it's just like anything else that we do, right? You know, we want to be the best in our field. It's trials over and over and over again. So that's what we have to do is to stay true, stay consistent.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

I put a slide here where you're holding medals and you're winning and you're like, you're just going at it, right? This is this is full force. Maybe describe a couple of these pictures and how you were feeling.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

Yeah, of course. So in that race right there, that's actually me winning my Olympic gold medal in 2004, where I won it by one one hundredth of a second. I went 985, second place was 986, third place was 987, fourth place was 988. It was that close of a race. So, like I say, quicker than you can snap a finger, it was first, second, third, fourth,

Medals, Pressure, And How To Connect

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just like that. So imagine just being just a little bit slower on a step or push off the blocks or arm swing that's gonna put you from first place all the way to fourth place where you're not even on a podium. So I've been very grateful to be able to be very clutch in those tight, pressured situations and say true what my race strategy was. And that's a testament right here in this picture. The second so no, I didn't say the second picture, the second picture is me holding up some of my medals, my Olympic gold, a silver and a bronze, right there as well from three different uh Olympic championships. And it's just showing that you know it this stuff pays off. The hardware comes from the dedication and the sacrifices that you make to be the best athlete or the best version of yourself. And that's what that picture means to me.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

I just want to take a deep breath. I had the chance to be able to take a picture with you with some of those medals, and and and we have millions, uh hundreds of millions of people in the country, in the world that want to be Olympic athletes, that want to be able to achieve, that want to know what it's like to be able to feel a gold medal. And you've been able to do that. And what I love about you, Justin, is that you're out there sharing the experience, sharing the messaging, and really giving people a chance to explore how they can become better versions of themselves. Yes. So not only as a podcaster, you're also a keynote speaker, you're out there talking to corporations, and and you're available for people at Ready Set Go to do more for the community. And with that, Justin, here's how we can find Justin. I'm gonna go right here where the picture is frozen for him, but we're gonna go right here where you're able to reach out to Justin at readysecgo.com or Justin at Gatlin-group.com. Justin is there for you. He's available, he wants to help, he wants to train, and he wanna he wants to make you better than you are today. Thank you so much, Justin, for being on the show, and we will talk to you again soon. Thank you again. I know everyone listening truly appreciates you being here.